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Today's talk is jam-packed with topics that will keep you on the edge of your seat. We're bringing back the Jill of all trades—Cher Gardiner as she goes over different themes surrounding religion, belief systems, spirituality, the Matrix, timelines, state of consciousness, and everything in between. Cher will spit out facts that you've never heard before and bring valuable insights to the table. Tune in to find out more.

Key Takeaways:

[3:27] Cher's background and what she's been doing?

[7:48] Cher's insights on belief and faith

[9:06] Her identity crisis experience and what she did to overcome her struggles?

[11:33] Her journey towards self-awareness and the healing process.

[15:04} Cher shares some tools that she can offer to the audience as they overcome their moments of fear

[18:39] "We have to realize that we are all fractal aspects of God."

[23:26] Her belief towards ascension

[28:11] Serving the one actual infinite creator that is God.

[31:25] Cher’s take on reincarnation, karma, and timelines.

[48:06] How can judgment affect a person's perspective?

[51:37] Being happy with your belief is what matters the most.

[53:01] How does body technology work? And her take on meditation.

[58:11] Words don't teach; only experience teaches.

[1:02:00] It's okay to question everything because we are entitled to our own faith and belief systems.

Resources Mentioned:

The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch by JJ Hurtak  Cher Gardiner on Facebook Please visit: www.badasseryfactory.com For Self Development ONLY, join our Private Group:https://www.facebook.com/groups/197105274405728/

Transcript

(intro)

Andre: Who’s a badass? That’s right. You’re a badass. Welcome, everyone, to the weekly show where we will go deep into the human dynamic and what makes us all extremely special. We’re breaking the stereotypical mold of the badass on a Harley with tattoos and we’re rebranding the badass with any human being that’s happy and free. One can have all the money, houses, the Harleys and tattoos, Lamborghinis, yet if they’re not happy and free, what’s the point? Let’s push some buttons and start some shit. Welcome to the weekly show, Who’s A Badass?

(interview)

Andre: We are live. Welcome, welcome, welcome. What a day. It’s been a while. Can’t lie to you guys, it’s been a couple of minutes as the youngins today say. It’s been a minute. Welcome, everybody. Phenomenal date today, 2/22/2022. Here’s bottom line: 2022 is gonna be a phenomenal year. Yes, there’s stuff in the world but we still make of it what we choose. So the reason I launched this again now is because I feel there’s a turn, there’s a shift, there’s momentum building in the galactic universal energies and that’s why this guest here today is perfect because of what’s happening in 2022 and I believe where we are headed as the human race. So, without further ado, y’all ready? Y’all ready for this? Boom. I got the one and only, out of somewhere in Canada, she’ll tell us where the heck she’s from, but she’s in the boonies, somewhere on a farm, and I’ll tell you guys really quickly, my connection to Cher. The way it found her, I don’t know, a year and a half, two years ago on Facebook, I started reading her posts and her posts were these long copy written, therefore copy, long, very informative, what I’d love to call stuff shit. It was like so engaging. I’m like, “Man, this woman knows her stuff,” and then shit is a positive shit, don’t get me wrong, Cher, and everybody out there. You know me.

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: So I started reading her stuff and I’m like, “Man, she knows her stuff,” and she, you know, people that go into the world of vibration and ascension and numbers and what all this stuff means, you’re either like this out-there guru meditating, floating from a tree or you’re Bible-thumping and confusing the shit out of people and instilling fear so my connection to Cher was that she wasn’t doing any of that. She’s just Cher, and she loves to share. See what I did there? Cher loves the share. So, welcome to the Who’s a Badass show for your 2.0 appearance, the one and only Cher Gardiner. Welcome.

Cher: Thank you. Thank you, thank you so much. You hear me okay?

Andre: I hear you. Let’s launch the show with this. I hear you fucking great.

Cher: Awesome. Thank you. 

Andre: You’re welcome. So, okay, it’s been a year plus since you and I connected here on the show. Much has transpired, right? But let’s do this, before we get into what’s happening in the world, for those that don’t know you, do a quick intro. Who the heck is Cher?

Cher: I am —

Andre: I am, that’s good.

Cher: I am. I am. I am a Canadian. I live in Western Canada in Alberta so if any of you know where Edmonton or Calgary is, I’m kind of stuck in the middle. I am like an hour away from the mountains, which is really nice. I live on a farm. We have a quarter section farm which is like 160 plus acres. I have tons of forests on my land. It’s really nice. So I kind of have this beautiful retreat space but I’m also extremely isolated. I’m not really near anybody. I have a few neighbors that I do talk to sparingly, but, yeah, it’s pretty nice out here. It’s pretty quiet. And I’m married. I call him my house elf because he doesn’t like his face or his name or anything on social media so I just refer to him as my house elf. 

Andre: That’s good.

Cher: Yeah. And he’s kind of like the redneck aspect of my life or whatever. And then I’m his kind of, I don’t know, he told me he wanted to buy a t-shirt or have a t-shirt made that said, “I love my galactic wife.”

Andre: Oh, that’s cool. That’s perfect. That’s such a perfect name for you. He knows you.

Cher: Yeah, yeah, it was a little odd kind of getting to that space where I was able to like speak freely on this stuff but there was a few days, probably a few weeks, two years ago where I just said, “Can I tell you something weird and you won’t think it’s like I need to be in a hospital or something?” Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that’s about it.

Andre: So to back up really quickly, I wanna give — the purpose of this show, you guys, is to bring you weekly, weekly, weekly value. I want you guys to have tools that you can use in life because, otherwise, it’s just empty information that nobody really gives a shit about so I want you guys to get value, value, value. So, Cher, let’s begin with your upbringing. You were brought up religious or in a religion.

Cher: Yes, kind of. My family did not go to church, I chose on my own to go to church and so that path — yeah, so I was kind of in this small little town where there was this elderly couple that started a church and they would bring a van and they’d collect kids for Sunday school and that’s how it all began for me and so, out of that, you know, I progressed, they were promoting a Bible camp in the summer so I started going to Bible camp and then for 14 years, I worked on staff at that Bible camp. I went to Bible college, I went to School of Prophets, I was in prison ministry, I was in music ministry, I toured Western Canada for two months singing at churches all over the place, and, you know, being billeted at people’s houses and I was one of those people who could get you saved in the next five minutes.

Andre: Wow.

Cher: Yeah, and I was one of those like hellfire damnation type, you know, “Do it now or you’re done,” like there’s no hope for you. It was that extreme. I was super extreme.

Andre: Because you were passionate or like you had a direct line to God?

Cher: No, I was in the program.

Andre: Got it. Got it. Got it.

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: So would you say program like you were brainwashed?

Cher: I think there was other things in my life that had kind of pushed me into that area because there was just a lot of times in my life where I felt silenced, where I felt like I wasn’t important so maybe I struggled with self-worth, self-esteem, so, yeah, so then you kind of move into something where you feel important and when the message of like God and Jesus died for your sins and all this stuff and, you know, you’re the chosen one so you kind of move into this extreme faith. It’s helpful. It teaches you lots of things at the time and it carries you through periods that are maybe a struggle, but I’m on a different end of that bridge now. 

Andre: Okay. 

Cher: Yeah. Yeah. I won’t say I’m religious but I do have a huge faith, like a deep faith.

Andre: Yep. 

Cher: Yeah. Yeah. 

Andre: And I see that through your posts and your writings. I don’t think you can do what you do or talk about what you talk about if you did not believe in a God, a creator, a phenomenal intelligence, right?

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: So can we fast forward now to pretty much what you just said so I’m not religious but I’m a believer and like what do you believe in today?

Cher: Well, it’s been an interesting path of discovery just in this last little while, coming to a place where I’ve deprogrammed or dismantled, I like to refer to myself as a systems dismantler for other people. I kinda, you know, take a tangled ball of yarn, so to speak, and I use yarn as a reference because I’m a knitter, and I just kinda unravel it and reroll it up for people so that they get a new perspective, and even Bible prophecy talks about that how information like dreams, visions, word is tucked away for a time for such a time as this that we’re in now and that it’s to be brought forth as a new song so I like to do that with what I write and things like that. It’s part of what is meant for this time and there’s a lot of people still trapped in that matrix of the religious aspect and other parts of, you know, this life that we live. But, for me, I had kind of like a spiritual death about I think it was in 2009, 2010. My dad passed away before that and then he appeared to me in a dream and he just said, “Honey, everything you think you believe is not necessarily true.”

Andre: Oh, wow. 

Cher: And so I went through this massive wandering through the wilderness, so to speak, like just a major fog of losing my identity. I didn’t know who I was, I didn’t know what I believed in, and I literally just chucked my Bible and I chucked church and I chucked everything and stepped away from all of it and I was in this massive place of just going deeper and deeper and deeper of like, “Who am I? Who am I?” and it took me into this massive self-destructive phase where I was like victim mode mentality and it was me, me, me, me, me and I was very much attention seeking or I was trying to speak out and people would silence me and so then it sent me deeper and deeper into this period of like extreme self-loathing where I hated myself just so much and that was probably for about four or five years. And then in 2014, I hit this really, really low point where I was — to the point where I didn’t wanna be here anymore, like literally suicidal but not having the balls to do it. And so when people reach those periods in their life where they come to this huge, you know, bridge crossing in their life —

Andre: Sure.

Cher: — whether it’s, you know, a midlife crisis or you’ve lost your job or, you know, like I had my spiritual death, I lost my spiritual job, so to speak, and didn’t know who I was and so it’s like, it’s a near death experience. And so I had, I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of a walk-in, but I had this walk-in experience where Cher 2.0, just like when you said it beginning of the show, 2.0 steps in and it was like I was sitting on my bed and I was just this one person and then immediately I got up and I was a totally different person. And so many things changed in my life after that. I was majorly overweight. I started going for walks with the dog and, normally, I was just laying in bed for days and days, just laying in bed. I’d go to work and I’d just lay in bed, I wouldn’t talk to people. I was just so like in a low state. And then I would go for walks with my dog and then probably two or three weeks in, I just started bawling and I just started saying, “I love you, I love you. I love you. I love you. It’s okay. You’re gonna be okay. I love you. I love you.” And it wasn’t like I was talking to me, it was something else talking to me and I had this major shift in my self-awareness. I was just acutely self-aware. I was hearing myself like I was an observer, like I was watching myself and I started paying attention to all my triggers, all my reactions, all my actions —

Andre: Wow.

Cher: Why are you doing this? Like every time something would come up again and I’d repeat a cycle, I would stop and I would watch. I’m like why did I say that? Why did I do that? Why? You know, I was always catching myself. And so then I became this acute observer of myself and then speaking to myself on these dog walks and it was amazing because our bodies hold so much garbage when we’re in that state. And over the course of 13 weeks following that, I lost 54 pounds just walking the dog and saying I love you. 

Andre: Oh my lord. 

Cher: Yeah. Yeah, it was huge. But it was strange too because with my house elf, I didn’t tell him any of this stuff was going on so I was living this double life at home and hiding that aspect of me and then going through this walking experience and it’s like, oh my God, how do I tell somebody this but —

Andre: Right, yeah, yeah.

Cher: — not sound like a lunatic, right? Like I used to work in psych wards. I used to work as a protection services officer in a hospital. We had a team of officers and we dealt with criminology situations. We had forensic, we had psych patients, we had all kinds of stuff come in and we would do all the intake of like taking them from police, going to, you know, emergency, transferring them to whatever units they needed to. So I was in the industry of crazy and here I was like, oh my god, I’m going crazy.

Andre: Yeah. Yeah. I’m sure you had to question everything, every thought, every action, like what is going on, right? 

Cher: Yeah, yeah.

Andre: That was a deep breath. So, what you’re talking about right now, I feel what you went through and the moments of sitting on your bed and saying basically, “What the fuck?” I believe that is the — if there’s an epidemic today, that’s it. I believe people are scared out of their mind —

Cher: Yeah.

Andre: — I believe people don’t know what to do with it. I believe you are questioning God. Are you real, God? If you are real, why is this happening? Why are these —

Cher: They’re questioning everything.

Andre: You’re questioning everything —

Cher: They’re questioning school —

Andre: Themselves —

Cher: — they’re questioning their workplace, they’re questioning the banking, the medical, like they’re questioning the government —

Andre: Everything.

Cher: — they’re questioning everything. Nobody knows what’s real, what’s true, what’s fact. Nothing. Nobody knows who’s on their side. 

Andre: Yep. 

Cher: They feel lost.

Andre: So you can’t trust anyone so then it brings a different layer in the psychological human dynamic world of if I can’t trust anybody, can I even trust myself? Bam.

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: So now —

Cher: Dark night of the soul.

Andre: Dark night of the soul. So these are the tools that I want to share with people. So, for the people out there that are lost and everybody, I don’t give a shit who you are, everybody has moments. We could be the biggest meditator on the planet and you can float and you can move walls and trees, cool, you still have moments of the fuckery. The stuff still shows up. Some of us know how to deal with it better, faster than others, but it still shows up. Little thing still shows up like, man what’s gonna happen? What’s next? What if that thing? How about the banks? How about the — So my point, Cher, what have you found to work? What tools can we offer the audience when they get into that dark night moment?

Cher: The biggest thing is you really need to feel the stuff out. Feel the feels, because like that’s gonna let you know that you’re at least a real person. You’re going through — the thing is is that you wanna move into a place of becoming acutely aware of what’s going on. Like I said, I just became the observer. I started watching, I started feeling, I started questioning, I started, you know, seeing. I was in situations where like in the workplace, my boss was really antagonistic towards me, and then I was just noticing patterns that were popping up, like with the whole thing where I felt like I had been silenced or I had a boss who did this to me, you know, like stuck his hand in my face and didn’t give me a voice and yet, I was calling him out on — he was breaking laws, you know? And I was just frustrated because I’m like, hold on a minute, like, whoa, this is defamation of character. This is this. This is discrimination, you know? And I worked in a Christian retreat place and it was — there was just so many places where it was like, nope, nope, like no talking. So I was just — like I stood back and I just started watching, I’m like, okay, what’s my natural reaction? What do I normally respond with? Why do I normally respond with this? Why is this my job? Like why do I always have to do that? And when should I speak up? And that kind of thing. And so, whatever we’re going through, we have to go through the feels. We have to like purge it out. It’s like cleaning your house and you’re a hoarder, you gotta get rid of all the stuff because all this stored up energy and cellular memory, that’s the key word, it’s cellular memory, you start to gain weight, your body breaks down, your arteries clog up, like everything, you get mental fog, you just have no clarity of thought and then you’re just on like automatic, autopilot and it’s just that fear, fight or flight response mechanism that just is like on overdrive and you start destroying who you are. You become self-destructive. You become angry, you become bitter. Bible says, you know, bitterness is like rottenness to your bones, and it’s true. It just starts to destroy who you are. One thing that I was — like what we were just discussing, how there’s all of this situation with like the school and the medical and the government and everyone, nobody knows where to turn, like one thing that I’ve come to in my observation is I had to start looking at that as the matrix. And there’s an overlay there. Because I was moving into this space of like figuring out who I was and then stepping away from God and then reencountering God and if God’s a trigger for some people, like whatever, name it, whatever you want, the color blue, the universe, like I don’t care. But, for me, moving into this like a reunification with my faith, right? I had to come to a space of like, hey, show me what’s real and show me what’s not real. And so what I realized is that this was a temporal war, like it’s a war for the hearts and minds of men, okay? And it’s the fuckery, you know? It’s just all of that stuff. And this is where like the Bible talks about powers and principalities and how there’s like a massive deception and God wins this war in the end. And so, as God is winning, we have to realize that we are all fractal aspects of God, having a human experience, and so we’re in this war too. We’re not just stuck in the middle but we actually have an active part to play and so when we come into the place of being an active observer, an acutely observer, and start realizing the manipulation and the distraction and the coercion and the entertainment, there’s entertainment, like that was a huge one for me to just see how a lot of this deception is portrayed as fun and so it kind of like sweeps us off our feet, you know?

Andre: Yeah. Let me ask you a question really quick because like you covered a lot of topics in that section. No, no, no, which — I know. I know. It’s like she just wrote her next post, which is amazing info, but I want people to understand bite-sized shit. What is the matrix? Because a lot of people think, “Well, it’s a fucking movie.” What do you mean? 

Cher: Okay, so one example is when they say do your part or for the greater good, okay? That is the slogan of the matrix and what that is is it’s an NLP program to gather everyone into the collective hive mind of thinking, and it’s like a conveyor belt of thought and they’re controlling what’s being mass produced on that conveyor belt. Okay? We were created in the image of God and that conveyor belt of thought is designed to like move things in front of us so that we’re constantly distracted from the ascension process and the ascension — the purpose of ascension is for you to come into the fullness of that image of God. So does that make sense?

Andre: Yeah. So the matrix is basically an illusion that we are sold, that we choose to buy as reality.

Cher: And then they started in school when we’re really young, like —

Andre: Sure.

Cher: — you know, stand in line, put your hand up before you speak. It’s all obedience training. It’s like we’re just a bunch of dogs in a kennel and we are told to sit — yeah, sit, obey, roll over, do whatever and —

Andre: Yeah, that’s good. 

Cher: — and then out of all of that stuff, when you create this hive mind experience, you can slowly break that down and fracture it. And this is another thing that I learned when I worked in mental health in the hospitals and stuff is like you have patients who have like schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, they have a fractured altered, they call them alters, their personality alters, and this is what happens. So, those of us who start to question it, and they label us crazy, they stick us in the cage, you know, like you need help, you need pills, they drag you down, whatever kind of thing, but then there’s the people who are just like they’re happy being at the assembly line on the conveyor belt of thought just taking in whatever and just processing it and whatever, you know? That type of thing. 

Andre: Yeah.

Cher: And so what it does is it creates a compliant, complacent, non-competitive atmosphere, right? And then what that does is it drains out, like I see it like if God is a tree and we’re part of that, we’re grafted into that tree, it just sucks all the nutrients from the roots and that tree can’t grow anymore.

Andre: So beautifully said. There are so many layers there. Well, so listen, I keep going back to what’s happening in the world, right? It just — there’s a lot. You’re in Canada, I’m in the States, Europe is lit up, there’s just so much — Australia, the world is ablaze, if you will, right? So the matrix, the fuckery, and you look around today, because you said it very well, right? It’s programming to get people to do what somebody else wants, right? So we’re creating these —

Cher: It’s the system, the beast, system, whatever you wanna call it, it’s the system. Yeah.

Andre: So we’re creating these dogs, you know, we take the puppies and we are creating these dogs that behave according to my rules so they’re being indoctrinated, right? They’re being house trained, right? To do exactly — pee in the corner. 

Cher: Yeah.

Andre: It’s funny because I was brought up in the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church was exactly what you said about school. You gotta raise your hand, you gotta wait for the door, you know, the bell, you just stay inside of a fence, you’re caged off, right? You can talk only when — so in church, you gotta sit down, stand up, kneel down, say this prayer, say that prayer, then the little bell rings and then you gotta take this Eucharist and that Eucharist and here’s the blood of Christ and here’s the wine and you gotta go outside, go inside. Fuck, by the time you leave this mass control, holy shit. They got you —

Cher: Yeah, it’s just a big game — it’s a big game of Simon Says, right? 

Andre: Yeah. And here’s the world now doing exactly what they want. But I digress. Let’s go back to ascension. What is ascension? What does it mean? So you said that ascension is our journey to becoming God or becoming God essence? Go there again —

Cher: Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So, my disclaimer, this is not Sunday school, folks. Nothing I post is Sunday school.

Andre: The disclaimer is that they’re — the Who’s a Badass show, we say what the fuck we want. That’s a disclaimer. Go ahead. Be you.

Cher: So one thing that I’ve learned is that the trinity doctrine was in place so that they would, like I said in my last interview I did with you, where there was Father, Son, Holy Spirit and then man was separate, right? But the trinity doctrine, it’s interesting because when I started doing my own research of like, okay, finding my way back to God, I’m like, okay, God, like show me who you are because like I don’t believe anything anymore. And so I went and I opened my Bible and I read the very first thing and it says, “In the beginning was God and the Word of God, the Word was with God, and the Word became flesh.”

Andre: Yeah. 

Cher: And then when I read further, it says, “Let us make man in his image,” and I’m sitting there going, okay, hold on a minute, the Word was God, the Word was with God, and the Word became flesh, and I’m sitting here going that’s the Christ and the Christ was there from the very beginning. God and His Begotten Son, okay? And Jesus always said, “I am of the Father and the father is of me,” you know, and he did not consider it a sin to be equal to God. And then, when you get into the learnings of the original translations of the name of Jesus and how people, I just laugh sometimes and I’m not doing this — I laugh because myself, I used to do it when I was a Bible thumper. It’s like when I was like doing things in the name of Jesus and I rebuke you in the name of Jesus is like I was throwing Chinese throwing stars in the name of Jesus, you know?

Andre: Don’t fuck with me. 

Cher: But what I learned is that the translation of name was nature and so I was learning that there was a nature of Christ and it wasn’t just me casting stones at somebody condemning them because they’re a sinner and you’re going to go to hell and whatever. I was not operating out of the nature of Christ, because the nature of Christ was love, the nature of Christ was compassion, the nature of Christ was —

Andre: Oh, interesting.

Cher: — listening, sitting, whatever. And so when I read this first verse that said, “In the beginning was God and the Word was with God and Word became flesh,” and blah, blah, blah, I’m sitting there going, “That is the nature of Christ to sit at the right hand of the Father, to be with the Father,” and then they said, “Let us make man in His image,” and then I knew I was never separate. And then when you read the rest of creation, it talks about the spirit going out over and creating the expanse and the water and, you know, whatever. And so, when you think of the Shekinah glory, which I spoke about in our last interview as well, when the Shekinah glory falls upon man, that is the essence of God falling upon man and so that is the true Trinity right there because when they teach the salvation message or the, you know, crucifixion, I struggle with that a little bit because what I’ve also learned is that the name of Jesus or Yeshua or whatever people wanna call him, his name means salvation and when the Bible says, “If you believe on the name Jesus Christ, you shall be saved.” And the name of him is salvation and the nature of him is love and the nature of him is compassion and the nature of him is just being in that presence, that essence, that whatever of God, and he — the Council of Nicea taught us to worship three gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, yet Jesus always said, “Worship the Father only,” and it moved me into this place so especially in these last two years or two and a half years that I’ve been on this, you know, new journey of what’s going on today, it’s really interesting because I found that I was just going for walks and saying, “No matter what, I don’t care if people cast me aside, they think I’m a lunatic, I’m talking galactic shit, whatever, I’m talking higher dimensional stuff, I don’t care. I’m here to serve the one true infinite Creator and that’s it.” So the relationship just really, really changed and then, in terms of ascension, then it moved me into new tools that allowed more to open up for me so let’s work with that.

Andre: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So tell us more about the idea of the Christ. I understand energetically what you’re saying. Then, if Christ, the Christ, so is that something that’s in all of us? What is the Christ then?

Cher: There’s layers to it. This is where I always just say, “Think for yourself. Do your own research, you know, head on a swivel, question everything,” because that — are you taking pictures of me?

Andre: No. So listen, just for everybody out there, I just got an alert on my phone, that Truth Social, my Truth Social account just went live on 2/22/22 and so I’m like holy shit, as you’re talking, I’m celebrating on the inside like a winner. So I thought, let me just grab some footage here really quick because that’ll be my first post on Truth Social. Anyway, thank you, as you were. Thank you.

Cher: So the Christ consciousness and the whole Christ aspect, when you move into developing this relationship with the Father and then you know that Christ being the Son of Man, not the son, like, yes, he’s the son of God, but he lowered himself to the Son of Man so that we could then take that position beside the Father, it’s basically like here’s God and Christ at the breakfast table and we show it up and he gets up and he’s like, “Here, take my seat,” you know? And it’s that kind of relationship now, because you were never separate. You were told you were and you had to earn your way back, you had to fight your way back, you had to confess your way back, whatever, you know, go through all the motions, the Simon Says stuff, and so coming into the knowledge of how Christ basically pulled the chair out for you to sit in his position and where you’re now included, you’re honored, like God is just so glad that you’re part of the family kind of thing, this is the whole aspect of ascension is for us to come into this realization of who we are. And so it’s a process for everyone. Like I said, you’re gonna feel the feels, you’re gonna declutter the junk, you’re gonna sit there and become the observer, you’re gonna be like, holy shit, why did I do that? You know? Okay, I’m not going to be that person anymore. And so, when you do that, you’re going through massive layers of like forgiveness of self and when you go through extreme forgiveness, it’s amazing because what actually happens is this — we live in a samskara system where we come back lifetime after lifetime, like the karma, and we relive to fix stuff, or so they say. But when you go through those stages of massive observation and massive forgiveness, you are actually overcoming lifetimes in one lifetime. And so it’s like you’re compressing all the stuff that you would have to come back and do over and over and over and you compress it and you’re like, “No, I’m getting it done now.”

Andre: I gotta go there because you’re talking about obviously, reincarnation and karma.

Cher: And timelines and all that stuff —

Andre: And timelines, got it. And — yeah?

Cher: I’ll get to that later though —

Andre: Go on, sorry —

Cher: — is that okay? Okay —

Andre: Yeah. You can do whatever the fuck you want.

Cher: Okay, so when I — and if you want to look at any movies that just like — these are movies that stood out to me in regards to the matrix, so, of course, the Matrix, okay and Free Guy and then there’s another movie, it’s an amazing movie, it’s called Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. It’s so good. One thing that really stood out to me in all of these movies is the sunglasses. And so, in the Matrix, of course, you know, after Neo takes this pill and they go back and they fight Agent Smiths and whatever, they got the glasses on, you know him and Trinity and everybody, all the Agent Smiths have their glasses on. In Free Guy, it’s an amazing simulation game experience so the main character is a player in a game and then he — it’s like he awakens, he has this consciousness in this video game and then he starts trying to wake up all the other non-playing characters in the video game, telling them — because the people who are actually playing the game, they’re the ones that have the guns and they’re shooting and they’re robbing the banks and they’re stealing the cars, kinda like Grand Theft Auto-type thing. So, this non-playing character, which is Ryan Reynolds, he actually somehow gets in a tangle with one of these other villains and he steals their sunglasses and he puts them on and he sees an entirely different world of what’s really happening. So he sees it from the player’s perspective but he’s a non-playing character. And so he tries waking up these other non-playing characters to get them to clue in like this isn’t real, like this is not real. And then same thing in Valerian, they have this desert scene where busloads of people come, and they go through this doorway and they’re given these VR goggles and it’s like walking into this galactic Vegas. And they shop there, they buy stuff, they do games, they have experiences, they travel, they stay in hotels, it’s all kinds of stuff. And then when they leave, it’s just this desert wasteland. It’s so bizarre. And so one thing that I was just, in my journey, I was just like, okay, show me what’s real, show me what’s not real. And so in my Bible study, and I hate saying “Bible study” because it just has, for me, it still has like church stigma and whatever. 

Andre: Sure, yeah, yeah.

Cher: But I’ll just say in my deprogramming and reprogramming, I was just like, okay, show me like how to access more, how to understand this more or whatever. So —

Andre: So was that a prayer? 

Cher: No, no, no I’m just doing dishes or sitting on my porch. You know that? 

Andre: Yeah, yeah, but I mean — but internally —

Cher: It’s just a conversation —

Andre: On the inside?

Cher: Yeah —

Andre: Yeah —

Cher: — where I talk out loud ’cause I’m crazy, right? So, yeah.

Andre: So a form of prayer, something, a form of —

Cher: Yeah. It’s a relationship and so I just have a conversation. And so —

Andre: Got it. 

Cher: — this moved me into a place of meditation, okay? And so this is where the tools get really exciting because there’s a lot of people that just, you know, they take their yoga class or they take their whatever class and they do their segment of meditation and they just kinda like — it’s just a silent space where they just zone out for five minutes or, you know, it’s part of the workout routine or whatever and there’s nothing really — I can’t speak for everyone’s experience but from my experience, there was nothing really invested there and I was just like, “Okay, well, what is this?” you know? So anyways, in my Bible study, I came across some verses. So, I was just taking this whole time of meditation and I was just saying, “I am, I am, I am. I am God, I’m with God,” And just expanding that, you know, like I know things and things are opening up for me and blah, blah, blah and whatever and then I would just sit there quiet, be still and know that I am God. 

Andre: That’s right. 

Cher: You know? And then I was thinking too of the verse that says, “Go into thy closet and shut the door and pray to your Father in secret and he will reward you openly.” 

Andre: That’s right. 

Cher: So then, over time of like going through this journey, then I found verses in Psalm 18:11, it says, “He made darkness his secret place.” 1 Kings 8:12 says, “The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.” And Isaiah 45:3 says, “And I will give you the treasures of darkness and the hidden riches of secret places that you may truly know me.” And so, in my meditation, and I’ll go through a technique like just kinda — not a technique, I’ll tell you the process of how the body technology is made to then further your meditation into something more meaningful, more productive, more manifestation, that type of thing —

Andre: So this is something people can take and use as a tool.

Cher: And I don’t teach meditation. I don’t —

Andre: You’re about to. 

Cher: No, no, I know, I know, but I don’t sit and do a guided meditation because this is a very personal experience —

Andre: Understood, and I agree. 

Cher: Yes, it’s very tailored to every individual and if you wanna go do your group yoga meditation, that’s a totally different thing than what I am teaching. But, for me, I was finding that when I’d go into the meditation, I was reaching those secret dark places. And then the whole aspect of, “I am the light of the world and God,” I think of the verse where, I don’t know where it is exactly, where Jacob wrestled with an angel and he came face to face with God and he called the place Penuel, okay? Well, that angel is an angle of light, it’s a photon of light, and then the place of Penuel is the pineal gland, pineal gland. And when your eye be single, your whole body fills with light. And then that’s a whole other technology that I’ll get into as well. So —

Andre: That’s good. 

Cher: Yeah. So what I was finding is that I would go into my meditation, shut the closet door, so you’re shutting your eyes, and you’re in this dark space and I was like just staring forward and I was just stating, “I am, I am here, I am ready, I am receiving,” and then I would just be quiet. And usually within like 10 to 20 minutes, I would see this black screen up here with like a pulsing light and it was like just this green pulsing light and that’s when I knew I came face to face with the photon of light, with the angle of light, like that angel light figure that Jacob wrestled with, and I was like, “Oh, my gosh, this is now where I can ask, seek, and knock and all things shall be added unto me.” And I’m like I’ve entered into the secret place. And so, for me, that just changed everything. And when you access light like that, it’s a very powerful experience, and you can access light outside of your body as well because we have the sunlight, we have — there’s so many frequencies and harmonics in the earth that are also set to assist in this thing. But when you access the light of God and then you access other aspects of light, like sun gazing, stargazing, moon gazing, water gazing, you look at the sparkles on the snow, all of that stuff, you’re taking in light and when you do it intentionally or in your meditation, you take in this light, you take in this information or whatever, and it may come later on as a download or just an intuitive thought or an idea, it’ll just pop in, but what happens is when you are in that space of activating light within your body, you start to unfurl dormant DNA that’s in your body and when you go and study about the Nephalem and how they fornicated with the original human females, what they actually —

Andre: Those fornicators, dammit. How dare they. Sinners.

Cher: They were hoping to expand more of their species but what they —

Andre: They did.

Cher: — they reduced their DNA strands and then our DNA strands were reduced at the same. It was like this punishment for doing that —

Andre: So what you’re saying, sorry, so what you’re saying sorry is that we truly are, what we really are is a sperm reduction. Sorry, I had to.

Cher: Okay.

Andre: Well, from that feeling, you just said that they were reduced and therefore we come out —

Cher: Oh, yes, yes.

Andre: — of this reduction of —

Cher: Okay, okay. So, yeah, so then we were reduced, like we had other strands of DNA activated but then we were brought down to two strand and not everyone is down to strand because, I mean, I could talk on a million topics, you could have me back on your show another day, because like indigo children, there’s many types of indigo children that have very high amounts of DNA strands activated from birth and from early age in their life kind of thing. But, anyways, with the whole Nephalem thing, we were brought down to the two strand DNA which allows us to survive and reproduce. 

Andre: And fornicate. 

Cher: Okay.

Andre: You said it.

Cher: Yes, I know. I know. Yeah. So, in the process of our DNA becoming dormant, well, now that we’re coming into this image of God aspect, the ascension of coming into this position, well, when you become the observer, acutely observing and watching and feeling everything out and you’re just kind of processing everything and then coming face to face with that photon of light, then the dormant DNA starts to unfold and what starts to happen is the living library that was hidden within our technology, and this is why the reptilians, the Dracos, and everyone wanted to feed off of us because we hold all the information for the entire universe. We are a living library. And so within our dormant DNA, we hold tons of information that includes halls of memories, the Akashic time fields, the Akashic memory fields, there’s great halls of wisdoms, there’s, oh, gosh, yeah, it’s huge. There’s so much. I mean, if you just like — I think of just driving around the country, you see this farmer’s field and that farmer’s field and that farmer’s field and whatever, there’s a collective consciousness, you know, there’s all kinds of stuff and when you unfurl this DNA, we all unlock parts of the puzzle because we’re all here as fractals of God and we all possess pieces of the puzzle and when we ascend, when we activate dormant DNA, when we come into this higher consciousness, this Christ consciousness of who we are, then we gain more information. Like people will write me, they’re like, “How do you know this stuff? How do you write it? I don’t understand. What books are you reading?” and I’m like, well, I’ve just sat on my porch and meditated and then two days later, like, bing, you know, something comes in or whatever, or, you know, someone will show up, give me a book, “Hey, have you read this? Have you seen this?” you know? There’s different ways that things come to us, right? 

Andre: Sure.

Cher: There’s different messengers that deliver what needs to come and then the more light that you access, the more unfurls and then the more that unfurls, there’s more — it’s kind of like a greater surface area to receive more light so then the information gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And this is when we tap into like such powers as telepathy and telekinesis and, you know, like you said, you’re the meditator, levitate, and, you know, all of that stuff. I mean, there’s — I have friends who can control the wind and then I have other friends who — uh, there’s just amazing, magical things that these people do. I mean, I, for one, had an amazing meditation where other realms came into my experience and I had this encounter with a dragon, you know? 

Andre: Oh, wow.

Cher: And it was like a Harry Potter experience, like, you know, and I was in this dark period where this dragon just came and it was like I just saw it kind of emerge out from behind me and then its wings came out and it was this great dark dragon and it just kind of like encompassed me and I felt like I was in the last season of Harry Potter where Hermione is in that tent, that tiny little tent, but you go inside and it’s massive. 

Andre: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cher: And so I’m inside this big dragon hug and I’m just being loved on and I’m just being told secrets and I’m being, you know, and it’s stuff from other realms and then it took me into a whole other world of like galactic inner standing, learning about the aurora borealis actually holds 13 tribes of etheric dragons that are here for peace and safety and they’re actually helping raise the frequencies of the earth so that — because it is in a time of like tumultuous times and so these etheric dragons, these aurora dragon tribes are here to bring peace and just kind of comfort and raise the frequency of the planet because like it’s just so crazy tumultuous.

Andre: Can I ask, I have two points. One, my oldest daughter, Ariana, since she was very, very young, had a connection to dragons, and she’s been collecting them and then eventually she, because I wouldn’t let her get tattoos until she was 18, so at 18, obviously, she can do what she wants so she went and got a dragon tattoo and turns out she just got another one so she’s got this phenomenal connection to dragons. So I’m mentioning her name because I want her to listen to this so is there significance to having a connection to these dragons?

Cher: Yeah. So one thing that I’ve learned in my experience is that dragons seek out someone who is of a pure heart. So someone who has gone through, you know, whatever they need to go through and then it’s like a cleansing period and then they’re ready to receive something that is truly intimate. And, usually, a dark dragon, darker color dragon, you know, the darker like the blacks or the grays or the purples, the dark blues, those types will come in, they’re a feminine energy, especially for girls, it’s a very powerful feminine energy that will come in and then usually a white dragon will show up that will balance out that energy as they’re progressing more into balancing their divine masculine, divine feminine, and that type of thing. So, yeah, it’s a very personal experience for everyone. And a dragon, I call those people dragon riders, so your daughter, she’s definitely a dragon rider because dragons seek out who is ready to receive their energy and intuition and, you know, she can talk to them, like this is the thing, like when you move into the higher realms of God, you’re gonna discover that like, really, this is part of the matrix too. They’ve shown us everything in our movies. Everything that’s real is in our movies. Although they’ve twisted it, they’ve made dragons evil, they, you know, guard treasure, they’re fire brothers, they eat people, and the thing is is it’s not necessarily true. Just like my dad told me, Cher, it’s not necessarily true, you know?

Andre: That’s right.

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: So, really quick, second question to all of that and, actually, that you bring in what the movies have taught us and, you know, whether religion, etc., but some people will hear this conversation and will say, “Well, that wasn’t a dragon. That was Satan.” You’re, you know, it’s a demonic force. What do you say to that?

Cher: I’m just gonna say like there’s just a glitch in your programs, glitch in your matrix program. You’re stuck in a program somewhere. There’s just something replaying for you and you can’t extract that —

Andre: Yeah.

Cher: — just yet, just yet. And this is the thing. This is why it’s all very personal, very intimate. And by — when I talk, I’m gonna talk about meditation but when you go within, you’re able to actually like weed out and extract what no longer serves you. And, like I said, go into the dark spaces and reveal the treasure and the secrets and the knowledge because stuff that people think is just all fairy tale and wishy washy, and, you know, story time and whatever, you know, it’s not.

Andre: It’s not.

Cher: No.

Andre: So I appreciate you not judging, obviously, I grew up, and we all grew up, all of us, everybody listening, whether you’re live, replay, doesn’t matter where you are, we’ve all grown up around judgment and judgment is the biggest evil in the world because what the human dynamic does is it says I’m better than you because my God is bigger, my Mohammed, my Buddha, my Christ, and because of that, I have the right, even though the Bible says don’t judge, we just love to judge and put people down. And some people that will hear the conversation around dragons and what happened to Cher and she was hugged and loved on, etc., well, you know, you should have an exorcism because that was obviously the hand of the enemy. And, you know, I’ve heard that so many times in my journey. My point about what you just did, you did not reply to my question with judgment. Like, “They’re fucked up. They’re screwed up. They’re reading the wrong book. They believe in the wrong stuff.” You just simply say they have the glitch in the matrix, they’re just retelling a certain story that they choose to believe in and it’s okay as long as —

Cher: If dragons are Satan, if dragons are real, if that’s all you’re going to classify them, then why do you read Alice in Wonderland and why do you read the part about the Jabberwocky? I mean, that whole story, and I have a post on my page about, actually I reposted it this morning about Alice in Wonderland and how it’s really a story about us and how all these different characters are aspects of like things that we’re dealing with, like doubt and fear. The Jabberwocky was the fear aspect of the self, like everything is a reflection of self. You go and watch Harry Potter, I can’t tell you how many Christian parents said, “Oh, I’m never letting my children read those books or watch those movies,” and it’s like, okay, well, hold on a minute, you have Harry Potter and Lord Voldemort and what you have there is basically Christ and Satan or God and Satan kind of thing and you have the most beautiful love story, this true story of friendship and support and camaraderie and talk about living outside of the matrix. I mean, Harry Potter lived in a closet but then he stepped out of the matrix and went to, you know, Hogwarts and lived his real life and became his true self. And if dragons makes you happy, who gives a shit? 

Andre: Bingo.

Cher: If fairies, unicorns makes you happy, if you love sports cars, like whatever, it doesn’t matter, because all that matters is what brings you to your highest excitement, your —

Andre: Yep. I so love that. Let me — I wanna go there for a minute. So, and obviously the topic today, you know, borders on religion and spirituality and ascension and matrix and fuckery and all kinds of fun stuff but here’s what I love, right? There’s this concept of this judgment of “My God is greater than your God and you gotta go to my church and if you don’t believe in this, you’re going to hell and if you’re not, you know, if you don’t stand on one foot and then kneel after two seconds, you can’t get into the kingdom of heaven, therefore, thy are fucked,” and I never connected with any of that. And what you just said is everything I’ve always believed in. Basically, if you’re happy, who gives a fuck, and that right there is everything. If your religion, if the thing you believe in, your God, your Bible, your book, your Sunday ritual, your Saturday ritual, if you go to a synagogue or that church or this kind of building or you have a hut and that makes you happy on a Tuesday at 2 p.m. Pacific on the Who’s a Badass show, I’m kidding, but, look, all I’m saying is this: If that gets you closer to God, if that makes you just one little bit happier, if that helps you treat other people like the God you follow, boom, it’s done, it’s over.

Cher: Yeah. And that’s the thing, like, for me, when I came into that relationship of realizing at the start of the Bible, you know, in the beginning was this and this and this and I’m now a part of this, holy shit, thank you for the privilege and the honor, you know? And now I’m gonna honor you back kind of thing. But that’s the thing. When you move into that space of love and compassion and whatever, there’s no room for judgment. When you’ve extremely forgiving yourself and whatever, it doesn’t matter. You can go through the motions all you want and I never understood that — I mean, the whole world is set up to distract you, dissuade you, deceive you, to take you away from all that is beautiful, like whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is, you know, like that Bible verse that talks about, like those are the things, like if those are the things that bring you to that space of being that beautiful, awesome, radiant person, then, I mean, do it. Do it, be it, whatever.

Andre: Amen. 

Cher: So meditation?

Andre: Oh, gosh, yes. So, we’re at the top of the hour so let’s do the meditation.

Cher: Yeah, so I’m just gonna talk about how the body technology works.

Andre: Yeah. Are you — sorry, are you going to touch on the chakra system or something else?

Cher: Yes, sort of, yes.

Andre: Okay, you go, you do you.

Cher: Okay. So, when you go into meditation, when you close the door, shut your eyes, whatever, get quiet inside, be still and know that you are God kind of thing, there is amazing technology in your body that you can activate and it’s quite amazing and I can refer you to a YouTube channel for more deeper information in particular, but this is just the simple version. Your body is created with a valve at the top and bottom of your spine, okay? In your spine, you have 33 vertebrae. This is how we access the Christ consciousness and fill the body with light, okay? So, Jesus Christ when he was in his time leading up to his ministry, there was 30 years of his life and then he was in ministry for three years after that, okay? So there’s this serum, this milky substance that’s in your spinal column called the Christos and when you breathe, when you get into your breathing pattern and you don’t have to force it, just like get into a place where it’s just ease and flow, ease and flow, what happens is that valve at the top and bottom, they open alternately and it creates a pumping action. And so what it does is it actually creates this scalar wave that goes up and down and then it comes up and up and up and up, up your spine, and then when it reaches the 31, 32, 33 space in your vertebrae, it’s actually coming into the base of your skull, your cerebellum or your reptilian brain or whatever, but this is referred to as Golgotha, the place of the skull in the Bible, and that 31, 32, 33 is the crucifixion point where you give up your carnal man self and you move into the Godself. So, what happens is that serum moves up into the pituitary gland and it releases a golden oil and this becomes now milk and honey and you are now entering the land of milk and honey.

Andre: Milk and honey, yep. 

Cher: And that then activates the pineal gland and then it turns on the lamp and so when the Bible talks about, “Is there oil in your lamp?” this is how you light that lamp, okay? So then, in regards to the chakra system, it’s kind of the same thing. There’s a book out there called the, where you can study the — I think it’s called the Upanishads, something like that, but it’s the ancient mystic Indian aspects of the chakra system before the Western world got ahold of it instead of, “Oh, it’s all about feelings and colors and stuff.”

Andre: Pretty stuff.

Cher: And so it takes you through the true Kundalini experience of where you start at the root chakra and, same thing, with your whole breathing apparatus technology, when you’ve activated that sacred serum, what it does is it pierces the six chakras, and when they light up, it activates 72,000 nadis in your body so you become like this huge electrical field, this massive power house of like frequency, harmonics, everything. And then there’s actually 114 chakras, you have seven, and then the crown chakra opens up. And in the Bible, it talks about the 12 disciples. Well, in your brain, you have 12 ventricles and they all light up and what it does is it creates this hemi-sync operation where you come into the full knowledge of the higher knowledge of God. And this is where you access these secret sayings where you can access the treasures of God, the halls of wisdom, the telepathies, the this and that and whatever, all the higher knowledge that you’re acquiring, that you’re wanting to acquire. And then when you’ve activated the crown chakra, the 111 remaining chakras are able to then light up and activate. And then, by opening that light source and, you know, gathering more information, well, the more light you gather, light is information, and then you become like this — sometimes it’s sensory overload, it’s information overload, you know? And it’s the most amazing experience and you can go there and ask a question and if it’s not answered in the time that you’re sitting there, it will be answered later on. Something will show up, whatever.

Andre: Question for you. 

Cher: Yes.

Andre: Sorry. So, the fluid that travels up the spine is called Christos. And when it comes back down, is that the analogy of Santa Claus coming down the chimney?

Cher: Yes. Yeah, the Christos. 

Andre: The Christos. There you go. Beautiful.

Cher: The thing is everyone has to go through their own experience. I mean, seriously, words don’t teach, only experienced teachers so I will always say I am not your guru, I am not your, you know, like source of all information but if I can trigger something that would inspire you to seek out more of yourself, stepping into a more powerful activation of yourself and, you know, dismantle some system that was fucked up in your, you know, whatever —

Andre: Yeah. 

Cher: — and that’s the thing, when you read words in the Bible how God is omniscient, omniscient means all, all knowing, omnipotent, all powerful —

Andre: Omnipresent.

Cher: Omnipresent, that’s where you transcend time. 

Andre: Sure.

Cher: So, yeah, it’s a really, really powerful thing. Oh, and can I just add one more thing to the meditation on a galactic level? So there is an amazing book out there that is download from this author named J. J. Hurtak and it’s this beautiful book called The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch and in the book of Daniel, it said men will dream dreams and, you know, have visions and all this stuff, so this book is this massive compendium vision that he had for what was to happen post what we’re going through right now. But there’s a thing in there where he talks about the Halls of Amenti and the Halls of Amenti is the whole star gate and crystalline Earth grid system in the planet that all of nature’s connected to and all of the light councils, the galactics, the angels, like everything, okay? And what’s so amazing is that it talks about this pyramidal system in our body, when it lights up and that is the church of the seven hills or the chakra system, okay? When that pyramid system lights up, it activates 15 pyramidal structures throughout the entire planet, which then actually alters time fields and so we’re able to like — now we’re coming to this place where everything seems to be bottlenecking towards like chaos, but this is where all the timeline convergence stuff happens and where we’ve shifted timelines and things have warped and things are like weird and strange and it’s because we are — those of us who are taking part in that light activation of the planet, which is kinda cool because we’re taking part in God’s bigger plan —

Andre: Absolutely. 

Cher: — and it’s not limited to just one book, you know? So many people were just stuck with just the Bible and 66 books, but my friend Tamsin reminded me this morning, she’s like, “There’s 777 books in the Bible and we were only given 66.” So don’t be afraid to read stuff. Don’t be afraid to look at — there’s a lot of things labeled occult, grimoire, like just different labels, like there’s the Kolbrin Bible, there’s the Zephyr, there’s the Zohar, there’s all kinds of different books that were kept from us and now we’re in the time of information being released back to us. 

Andre: That’s right. 

Cher: It’s that new song being delivered so that we can bring forth all the stuff that is new for all of us so, yeah.

Andre: Amazing. So for people to find you, so far, your Facebook, on Facebook a lot, right? 

Cher: Yeah. 

Andre: Yeah, I’ll put —

Cher: And I’m building stuff. 

Andre: Yeah, yeah. Well, but for now, so up in the post, her name is tagged so anybody that — everybody should be, if you’re not following her, follow her. And listen, here’s the thing, you may not agree with 100 percent of what she says, maybe 50 percent of it is really fucking with your head right now because oh, my God, I’ve been taught so different and maybe cognitive dissonance is kicking in and maybe you don’t know it’s cognitive dissonance because cognitive dissonance may be telling you that that could be cognitive dissonance and it could be from Satan, you follow me? All these different layers of the matrix and onion layers that we have to unpeel to allow ourselves to even question. It took me so many years to figure out that it’s okay to question the Bible, it’s okay to question that priest, it’s okay to question my father, it’s okay to question all of it. I have that right and I have that duty. What sets me free? Truth. That’s it. So, anyway, follow Cher. If you agree with 1 percent of what she says and that 1 percent that you get that nugget can get you closer to the God that you believe in, the religion, the — and here’s at the end of the day all that matters: How do you treat yourself and then how do you treat others? Because everything else is bullshit. Go ahead. 

Cher: Yeah, I was just gonna say love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your mind and love your neighbor as yourself. When you know that you are God and that first part that you just said, you’ve got it all. It’s right there. Everything is right there. 

Andre: So it’s funny because it’s really simple that we as human beings complicate the shit out of everything and that’s why we’re still discussing this stuff because we fucked it all up. Anyway, you rock. You’re amazing. 

Cher: You rock. 

Andre: No, no, you.

Cher: Mirror, mirror, buddy. Well, I love you, Andre, I think this was fabulous and thank you so much for having me a second time. This was a huge blessing and a huge surprise and I appreciate it. This day is a very powerful day and I know there’s been a lot of people in my life just kind of saying like they’ve had a lot of energies kind of pent up gearing up for this and so, yeah, this has been really good.

Andre: Yeah, thank you as well because, again, like I said in the beginning, to have you, it was magic. It was simply magic. And so, again, thank you. You’re amazing. You guys, please, please follow her. 

Andre: So that was it, you guys. This is the Who’s a Badass show. My goal is to bring value. My goal is to have conversations around what’s happening in the world but not just sit here and talk shit or complain, the goal is to bring value in the form of tools, take a nugget, do something with it, change your life and that’s why I said we’re gonna talk about everything, the galaxy, the universe, God, religion, cryptos, NFT, gaming coins, money, business, scaling, literally all of that. So, if you have someone that you feel might be a good fit to be on the show, anybody but Terry Thayer, anybody but Terry Thayer, do not recommend Terry Thayer. I’m talking to you because he’s on here. But if you know anybody that would be a good fit for the show, please get up, have them get a hold of me or vice versa, put us together and we’d love to take them through our process. There’s now an application that somebody fills out and then once that’s approved, boom, they get a calendar link where they can pick their date and then, boom, this magic happens. Whew, that was a lot. Up on my Facebook profile, you’ll find a Linktree link that you can click on and you get access to all of our social media platforms and, of course, this will be repurposed to iTunes under the Who’s a Badass Show and you can listen to the podcast, subscribe, of course, leave a phenomenal comment of how amazing this stuff is and I will see you guys next Tuesday at 2 p.m. Pacific. Kick ass, have an amazing day, and please, please celebrate the most amazing Taco Tuesday in the history of the world. I love you guys. Peace out. 

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Andre: Thank you all for tuning in. Thank you for listening. And, remember, the goal here is for you to gain information that can change your life, that can set you up for a better tomorrow on your way to becoming a badass. And, remember, a badass is simply somebody that is free and happy. If you’re not happy and free on the inside, we’re empty. You know what to do, click all the love buttons, subscribe button, leave a comment, leave a beautiful review because, of course, you’re in love with this information and, of course, it is changing your life. Share this with someone please, get this information out there. Love you, guys, and I’ll see you on the next episode.