Intro 0:00 Who's a badass? That's right. You're a badass. Welcome everyone to the weekly show where we will go deep into the human dynamic and what makes us all extremely special. We're breaking the stereotypical mold of the badass on a Harley with tattoos, and we're rebranding the badass with any human being that's happy and free. One can have all the money, houses, the Harleys and tattoos, Lamborghinis yet if they're not happy and free, what's the point? Let's push some buttons and start some shit. Welcome to the weekly show, Who's A Badass. Andre 0:37 All right. We are in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada and it's about 800 degrees. It's like on an oven. But we are committed to doing the show and getting this information out there to the world. This gets repurposed to all the social media channels. It gets chopped up into small video snippets, it goes on TikTok, and on Instagram, and on, yeah... [inaudible] and of course, YouTube. YouTube, the channel is Badasser Factory, which is the best place to get all these videos from here and also from the group. Welcome to the Who's A Badass Show. If you don't yet subscribe to the channel Badassery Factory, subscribe now, meaning follow. You're on YouTube, you guys know what to do, subscribe, like, comment, big heart. If you're on the podcast, Who's A Badass Podcast, iTunes, etc., you know what to do, subscribe download, leave a nice comments, anywhere else just fucking love us, come on. Too sweet? Tami 1:43 I like it. Andre 1:40 And that's what I asked you to do when we met. Just love me. Or, and, not just or, but to be on top of everything that we do, you can text the word BADASS to 55444, the word BADASS, B-A-D-A-S-S to 55444. Whew. That was a mouthful. I'm ready to rock and roll. You're ready to rock and roll? Tami 1:44 I am. Andre 1:48 So, here's what's happening. Tami, for those of you that don't know Tami Popa, she is my wife, my business partner, the mother of my daughters, a complete, complete, complete badass. And the purpose of this conversation today is coming out of this two year lockdown, leading to a recession, political bullshit. I mean, you know it's a global movement that took place and everybody had a journey, we had a journey. But today, we are better than fucking ever. So, I thought, man, why not, let's have a conversation. How many couples do we know that attempt to work together? How many couples attempt just life together? And it's a bitch. How many couples travel the world together? How many couples are 24/7 together? Right? it's a lot. And I'm saying it's a lot because I'm a lot. Tami 3:07 There are things that's not to be comment on. Andre 3:12 No, why? Just... the point of this is to have a conversation around reality because it's not easy. It's a learned behavior. And can anybody do it? I'm not sure. I think it takes two special personalities to do it. Tami 3:26 I don't think so and I think, yeah, you you are a lot so thanks for opening... Andre 3:32 You don't have to fucking throw me under the bus. Are you kidding? Tami 3:34 No, it's not. You are a lot and I am a lot and we have a family of entrepreneurs and intense personalities and I don't think that working together, we're being together 24/7 is for everybody. I don't and you definitely have to work at it like anything in life that you want. So, I've never looked at it any different than you want to be successful, you want to come out of whatever mindset you were raised in to better, grow, you're going to fight, you're going to go through the whatever shit you carry to get to that next level and it's the same in a relationship and it's the same in working together or not. We choose to, and it's great most of the time and I agree better than ever. But because we're fighting for it. Andre 4:19 That's right. We could have given up how many times Tami 4:22 A lot... truthfully, a lot. We've had the ups and the downs, and the downs are easy to say, F you and I want to walk away. Andre 4:31 You can sa fuck you. This is a Badass show. Tami 4:34 Yeah. Well... Andre 4:40 You see? What the fuck. Are you kidding me? Oh... Tami 4:42 First of all, I am a lady always. I do say fuck... Andre 4:46 ... and we're back in Vegas. Tami 4:50 But always a lady that says fuck. All right, there we go. Andre 4:54 So, you said something interesting. So, upbringing. Let's go to upbringing because everybody here especially who follows us and the Who's A Badass Show, and of course, Badassery Factory, in the group. and such, we had a lot of conversation around growing up, early childhood, and how that timeframe really puts a stamp on who we are today. And I'm not looking to dissect your past but you have a childhood that shows up today. So, I guess let's chat about that a little bit. And, again, the goal is for people to get value. For them to say, "Shit was my childhood bring forward today that goes through my filter? So... Tami 5:34 Yeah, I mean, absolutely, we all do, right? We all have that imprint. We all have what we came in with and what we, that first seven years, and then of course, our upbringing. I have to be careful because my mom does watch the show. So... Andre 5:47 Why? So, tell your mom how you feel. Tami 5:50 No, my mom fought hard but my mom was a single parent raising me, my parents divorced when I was very, very young. But for me, being the only child of a divorce situation definitely had its impact on me. Little girls tend to look for their, to their daddies for certain things, and mine wasn't there. He was in and out, and in and out out of convenience and not able to handle certain things, and not able to honestly handle my mother, or be mature enough to have a relationship with her at the time. And so, that meant that we couldn't have a relationship. And being very young, I took that on, I felt like, cool, well, you guys have your stuff but there must be something wrong with me, in order for you to not want to be around me. And I took that pretty hard. So, I grew up with abandonment issues, daddy issues, issues with men coming from being very close to my mom and only child, and my mom being close to her sisters, and a few of them going through divorces. And one sister, she was very close to also divorced with an only child. So, we, my cousin and I grew up in that environment where it kind of seemed like men were untrustworthy, and not full of integrity, and all kinds of stuff you can imagine. Not like it was men bashing scenario but it didn't... I didn't really have the best example or how do I politically correctly, say... I was around women who were hurt by men, and felt like in general, there were some generalizations made of men just in marriage being tough, relationships being tough. Andre 7:29 So, you were conditioned with marriages being shit, difficult, problematic. [inaudible] Tami 7:38 Beacause I think that today? Listen, as we grow older, we mature, we understand why, we look back on situations that we may have judged at one point a certain way and we understand that there are many factors and that sometimes women who end up going through years and years of shitty relationships might feel a little jaded, might have a little biased opinion of relationships, or even of men, or guys of women. But now, I think the older I get, the more compassion I have for that relationships can be tough. And if you don't self develop and grow through your shit, which a lot of people don't want to because it's it's hard, and it's ugly, it can be ugly, and a lot of people would rather suppress the pain, or taking anti-depressants, or blame other people, or do anything but face their own pain, then if you don't do that, if you don't face the ugly and you don't grow, then you constantly project, and expect, and think it's the other person and the other person comes in with their own pain of shit, right? And then now, they're blaming their shit on you, and everybody's blaming each other. It's kind of, it creates this ugly cycle. And it's easy to say, well, relationships are tough. Men are shit. Women are shit. Yeah, it's just... and I wasn't really... I never really had an example growing up, let's just put it like this, and I'm not looking to sugarcoat it or even be... I'm just looking to keep it real. I didn't have that example of that great relationship that I wanted so coming into this, the only thing I knew when I met Andre was my heart, and my desire, and my vision was always that I would attract an amazing man, and have a beautiful loving relationship, and have a family, and that would be my forever. I had no idea what that actually looked like. No idea. I had no examples I had nothing to look to, no one to go talk to and say, hey, what do you do when he pisses you off and you feel like saying fuck you. I didn't have any reference point whatsoever outside of "It's fucking hard. Okay, now what?" And the hard, funny enough, wasn't even what I expected hard to be. It wasn't a hard like, oh, you get in a fight or he's difficult. The hard is also you, me, the hard was my shit. I had to... I mean I was 22 when we met, 23 when we got married, 24 when we had our first baby, 25... yes, yeah. We just did an event and he spoke and got on stage and I happen to be in the back building and he pulled the same shit. And he says, you know my wife, blah, blah, blah we met... Andre 10:17 It wasn't Blah, blah, blah. I said, look, that's my wife Tami. Isn't she hot? Crowd goes wild. Tami 10:23 Yeah, then we met 22 plus years ago, she got pregnant right away twice, have no idea how. And all he lost all the women at that moment... Andre 10:33 But the guys laughed like, "Oh, that's a good one. Fist bump." So, how did you do it? Tami 10:38 Apparently, I was that hot. You were just like, just you standing next to me, and fertile. Apparently very fertile. So, yeah, 22, we met. 23, we got married. 24, first baby. 25, I had two babies, wife, businesses that we've launched and it was just full blown, not... no looking back. So, amazing journey but that's what it is. It's a journey. Right? We had to basically take that moment of, bam, business, entrepreneurship, kids, marriage, young, now what the fuck do you do? What what happens when your shit surfaces, when our shit surfaces, when our ship clashes, when our... you're pretty lucky and are blessed, I guess you really, because I do believe we attracted each other and it was all very much in alignment. But thank God our core values were the same. The way we wanted to parent was very similar. When we had our babies, we face some pretty tough issues early on. Like my whole family, basically, the Western medicine base, nurses, practitioners, ER nurses, all that, and his family having a certain old school European mentality. And we decided all of a sudden, we weren't going to immunize our kids. We weren't going to put them in the school system. We were going to homeschool. So, we were kind of against the grain from the very beginning and everything. And that meant that him and I had to take on not only the world and our families. And so we we set ourselves up pretty good for taking the brunt of a lot of stuff, which today is a lot more common conversation. But back then, you know, 22 years ago, it wasn't as common. So yeah, I mean, a lot of things that you aren't prepared for that you have to be willing to fight through, to work through to find solutions. And the other thing that I love probably the most about Andre and I in our life is that we've never been afraid to pivot. We've never been afraid to grow and face the ugly. I mean, not that we always liked it, not that it was easy, but when push has come to shove in our life, even from very early on, we've stopped and regrouped and said, okay, what the fuck do you do? And where are we going? What do we want? And let's do it. And if something we were doing wasn't working, then it's time to pivot and do something else. For us, it was always common sense. And I really think that was the magic. Andre 13:08 Yeah, I think you're the magic. Tami 13:10 Thank you. Andre 13:11 Just to keep it real. So, the last everybody here is going through the same shit. Everybody, doesn't matter where they are, whether it's Costa Rica, Australia, Europe, everybody's going through some kind of fuckery from this shutdown, locked down, now recession because it's got to be new and improved, now you got fucking monkeys going around spreading AIDS? That's... Tami 13:37 Yeah. Here we go. You did it. Andre 13:39 I was on the verge of politics. Tami 13:40 I told him I wasn't doing politics so if you know me, you know I'm not doing politics with you, guys. So, I will... Andre 13:45 It's not politics. Monkeys are not political. But... I will politely decline. To get Monkey Pox, you gotta be in a gay orgy, and then you got to ask yourself a question, how the fuck are kids getting Monkey Pox. Oh, that was too hard... damn it. All right, but let's go back to the concept of... so a lot of people had a lot of hard time in the last couple of years whether it was financial, spiritual, emotional, physical, you fucking name it, right? Or maybe all of them. We had our stuff of growth. We grew... like in the last two years and I'm not bullshitting you, guys, in last two years, we as a couple, as a family, have grown so fucking much because we're together anyway. Right? Like we both work from home, we traveled the world, but all of a sudden, can't travel. You're not going anywhere. You're going to stay in your studio, you're going to stay in the office, you're going to meet up in the kitchen, like we're together a lot. So, it took our already together dynamic 24/7 but we would pattern interrupt with travel here, get on a flight, get on a cruise ship, get on the yacht get on a... and all of a sudden, it's like fuck you, you're not getting any of that you're gonna stay right here. And you're going to deal with some shit. So, and we have to do deal with some shit. Because maybe, and I don't even know if we've talked about this, but I think a lot of our "before shut down" was, hey, life is great because we have this trip coming up. We're doing great. We have this flight. We're flying first class to this part of the world. Tami 15:18 We're a very busy, very scheduled. Fun, lots of stuff, speaking, traveling, training. We traveled the year before pandemic and the shutdown, we literally were, like, over 150 days out of town, probably more actually when you look at the accounts. But I think a good 150 to 170 days we were on the road. And that was just Marriott, just because of our ambassador status. So, I know it was more, I mean, between cruises, and events, and trainings, and speaking, and he had a lot of speaking gigs that year, and I think he was on the road even weekends that the girls and I didn't go. So, we were, yeah, very scheduled, very busy, very... not a lot of time to sit around and shoot the shit or think about anything much personal outside of the fact that yes, we enjoyed each other. We enjoyed our family, we've always been big on, traveling with the girls whenever we could, and dinners, and family meals. And that's where we connect, and that's our passion. But yeah, it changed a lot even for us, and everyone across the world when the shutdown happened and people were grounded, and even home with their jobs or their businesses. People that have lost their jobs, lost their businesses lost their identity. Kids had to be home and parents didn't know how to be home with their kids. Andre 16:47 Oh, yeah. How many couples realized that they really like each other or they fucking hate each other? It's like, holy shit, right? Because when you really got to hang out with your spouse, significant other, or your kids 24 fucking seven because schools are down, jobs are down, you're not traveling, you're not going anywhere, you're going to be at fucking home, it's a wake up call. And it's like, it puts couples, and families, and individuals under a microscope. And it's like, holy shit. Oh, that's what it really looks like? So, back to you and I, I think it gave us an opportunity to either make it or break it. Tami 17:23 Yeah, it really did. Andre 17:24 Right? So, my question is, how the fuck do you put up with me? Because everybody wants to know that. It's not just me. I think this question is coming through the ether. Tami 17:35 Oh, well, I'm... let's just say, I'm trapped in my home right now. Andre 17:39 She's smartass. You haven't met her? She is the smartass. Tami 17:43 But funny. A few things happened. It was really interesting timing because the shutdown, as we're calling it, better be careful what words we use.... Andre 17:53 Yeah, I'm using shutdown. Tami 17:54 So, yeah, as the shutdown happened, not only did we as a family kind of get grounded and stop traveling so much. We're all home. And lots of things changed in life. But I was physically feeling really off for a bit there and not really understanding what was going on with me, highly emotional. I didn't know if it was the shutdown, the lack of travel, had days of feeling depressed and very down, and eventually found out, several months into it, that I was in pre-menopause already. And it's early, but I've done everything early. So, as a female and other females out there can relate, get your period early, matured early, I started pre-menopause early, and I realized that my hormones were in completely out of whack. And meanwhile, my kids had both crossed eighteen, and they're adults now. And that whole things of kind of leaving the nest, we had all of a sudden shutdown, and travel stop, and business stop, and politics increase, and my husband's very passionate about all that, as you, guys, know, and it just a lot of changes at one time that hit and I know we're not the only family out there. A lot of our friends and family went through similar situations of just extreme circumstances. And maybe it was just the fact that they weren't used to being together, and they weren't used to having their kids home, or they couldn't travel, or they, like I mentioned before, lost of their job, lost their business, or just all kinds of things. People went through depression, they went through financial issues, they went through marriage issues. We know, unfortunately, several people that got divorced or separated and unortunately started hearing of sicknesses and suicides and all kinds of things. So, I feel very fortunate in our stuff but we definitely went through our share, personally, I went through my share of having to figure out like physical and emotional on top of everything else not really at first understanding what what it all was but getting a grasp on it. So, I didn't handle all of it too well in the beginning and then I remember Andre was like, "What the fuck. What's wrong with you?" And I'm like, I don't know. It was just, it was a lot all at once. From your babies not meeting you as much anymore wanting to be independent, wanting to be all grown up, but then not really having anywhere to go because the world is locked down... Andre 20:04 So, go to the backyard. Tami 20:06 And then being used to traveling so much too, and then us being used to all kinds of stuff and a lot of transitions. And as I look back over the last couple of years and everything we went through, I'm really proud of us for how we fought. But there were some really heavy, heavy moments, and some fight or flight moments. Moments where we could have... if you take our entire 22 plus years together, we've had ups and downs, we've had seasons, but if you take this last two years, it was like everything accelerated. We whereas what could have made me 22 years, have 10 different opportunities to say, fuck it, we're done. I think we had that at least a quarter in the last two years. I exaggerate. But my point is, it wasn't easy, but we fought through it as a family, as a couple, as individuals. And also, with people that were coming to us that were struggling. We had our struggles, but we had a lot. It's where Badassery Factory really blew up in a lot of areas, because a lot of people were hurting a lot. And today, more than ever, even though we're we kind of saw some glimpses of it being in the past, again, you mentioned some stuff that's going on, and maybe pulling some of this back in, we're not done. And that scares the crap out of people. And people are hurting. Even now, the after going through all this for so long, there's kind of a role and a depression has kicked in for some people that they're having trouble kicking. And we've really become passionate about helping people see their way out of this. Helping people focus on the positive even in the shit, even the scary possible stuff and not turning to the media. Like I... You've probably seen me really pull back from social media. I had to. There was a while where it was driving me crazy. It was so negative and people, their opinions, one way or the other, from politics, religion, COVID, whatever. I'm like, no, I can't. It wasn't even educated information. It was just all over the place emotional, so I had to take my brace from it. And then, really have sideline cover actual conversations with people outside of social media, on the reality of everything in life. And I think for a while, social media just became a little bit of a clusterfuck. Andre 22:28 Yeah, it still is in different ways. So, let's go back to three things that if you can get... Tami 22:37 Sorry, I have to get the ashes on me. Andre 22:40 She's my makeup artist, she's my moisturizing person. You're my everything. Honey... Tami 22:46 ... give you facials. Andre 22:48 You do? Tami 22:48 Oh, sometimes. That what the mask is. Andre 22:51 ... that a facial? Tami 22:53 It's a little mini home... Andre 22:54 ... mini home facials. She's amazing. She's the magic. So, again, my goal is to share with you, guys, our stuff not because we're bored or like we're looking for attention. No, we're looking to share it with you, guys, the value so you can maybe take some of this because everybody's going through some of this. Let's cut this shit. I don't care who you are, where you are, age, race, location, it doesn't matter. The human dynamic is a fucking human dynamic. I'm a coach, I have shit. She's a coach. She has shit. Cool. What you do with the shit is all that fucking matters. If you stay in shit, it fermentates, it grows, it gets thicker, and eventually becomes cancerous, poisonous. What you do with the shit, hw you handle the shit is all that this is about. So, that's why we're doing this not because we're like, we have nothing else to do, we're in Vegas, we could be out gambling, partying, whatever. So, my question for you next is three things that you can share with the women, the audience in general, doesn't have to be a woman, but three things, the biggest three things that you learned from this last couple of years that are making you fucking amazing today. Tami 24:10 Wow, that's a big loaded question. Three biggest things I learned. I mean, I'm just goign to speak off the cuff as it comes to me in no particular order but for me, God and my family is everything and I would definitely fight for that no matter what situation or circumstance. That's number one, and truth in that, and if even if it means family that doesn't agree with you or is not in alignment with you and your family, it's okay to set boundaries. It's okay to even cut off certain toxic people in relationships in your life. We do a lot of that will last you know two years. Toxic people around you and toxic relationships are exactly that, they hold you back. It's like that crabs in the bucket story. When you're trying to crawl out leave it open because other crabs will pull him back in, and you, guys, all know, we all know the story. That's how I feel when it comes to negativity or toxicity in the world and friendships in life and family. You really need to surround yourself with positive happy people. And when things happen and shit hits the fan, you find out who those people are, who your people are. And sometimes, it's not what you think. Sometimes you may have people in your life and family in your life that you think are great, and you're not even aware of how toxic it is, or how against you they are, competitive they are, or that they're talking shit behind your back, where if push came to shove, and you really needed someone, whether or not they'd be there for you. And so, that's one thing, it's been present off and on throughout my life throughout our relationship together. And even more so in the last couple of years through the shutdown and through tough times in life is that you really learned who people are and aren't. And that's huge. The other thing is, as a person, and definitely, as a female, strong female entrepreneur, wife, mom, you may be part of it, all of it, have many, wear many different hats, you have to take care of yourself. You have to take time to individually heal and grow and nurture yourself. I found that I neglected a lot of things in myself personally for many years. Because I was always busy, take care of my kids, my husband, our business, this that. And when you feel depleted, you can't give, you can't love to your full capacity. And of course, I love and adore my family. And I just realized that, whoa, that were... as I physically was feeling very depleted and hormonally out of balance, and off, and not feeling like myself, I missed feeling good, but I didn't really know what was wrong. And when your hormones are out of whack, as a female, and this we know from being young, even teenagers, right, getting our, our period once a month and realizing or even going through pregnancy, some women have tough pregnancies. I was very blessed to have amazing pregnancies overall, but women have tough pregnancies and tough periods of menopause and going through that has given me compassion for what we go through, the different cycles as a female but also just how important it is to stay on top of that. I didn't want to do it as you, guys, follow us or know me, you know I'm big on all natural, don't do antibiotics, don't do synthetic anything. Our kids are clean, they've never had an antibiotic, they've never had a shot of anything. I'm more vaccine levels. Andre 27:08 You said the v word. Tami 27:40 I was trying not to but then you brought up tequilla.... The stuff... the point is, I approached this pre-menopause and hormonal imbalances the same way. And I'm working with our good friend and respected Dr. Stotle. He's helping me balance everything naturally through infrared sauna. So, I have a daily routine that started to bring back my physical, working out, [inaudible] red light therapy, natural hormonal therapy, but mostly balancing out my system naturally. And with whole food as you, guys, follow us, you know, we've been now six plus months on the carnivore diet, eating a lot of meat, fat, butter, dairy products, raw dairy, and it's been great. And that, funny enough, has also really helped me balance my hormones. I'm sleeping where I haven't slept in a year plus. So, all kinds of things but that was huge. So, self love, self care, really focusing on your own personal growth, it's easy to get caught up in the life and in the family unit. And you got to keep growing personally. Something that we do self-development daily, but I had to dive even deeper and for me, personally, into now a physical, mental, spiritual, just refocus every single day to keep my body and my mental state and my hormonal state in balance and check so that was huge. And then, I would say the third one is, through all of this, maybe also in just going through the physical stuff and getting older, and wiser, and my birthday is coming up next month. So, when I was little I remember hearing that phrase, "Don't sweat the small stuff." And it's all small stuff. And then, there was a book that came out and many different books have come out around it but really, you need to find a way to let a lot of little shit go, let a lot of things you can't change go. And I'm a Virgo, and very, I guess controlling and perfectionist by nature, everything has to be a certain way, my brain has to understand things a certain way, my husband's the complete opposite. So we can make a really great team but sometimes it drives him crazy, sometimes it drives me crazy. And I think in the last year, especially last six months, even more specifically, I have had to let a lot of shit go. And a lot of things to where, like if I can't get to the dishes at night, and we have time to hang out and just chill, they'll happen tomorrow. I don't always unpack immediately, if my house isn't always perfect, laundry is not always.... I do enjoy doing laundry and having things up and down. But my point is just, someone says something, I am so not attached to that. That's their opinion, and it's none of my business. I don't care what they think anymore. I don't care what they say anymore because I can't. I literally got to a point of physically, emotionally, not being able to carry all the shit I used to, and letting it go. And it was so free, and so peaceful to just realize that whatever the fuck you think, or say, it's all you. It only affects me if I let it. And I don't want to let it anymore. And I had so much... that was with all of it, the social media, the opinions, the politics, people that have opinions about our politics, or our beliefs, or our opinions, his beliefs and opinions. And it bothered me a lot at first. And now, I have to say, I'm just free of so many things that were keeping me constantly disturbed, and that was huge. So, it's a big one for me to just be and let everything else be and [inaudible] to be imperfect and fine. And I think the free part is just really the nice... it's just kind of that sweet spot in life that I really can't say I've been at for a long time. Andre 31:44 And she's fucking funny. This one here is fucking funny. Man, she gets into goofy modes, goofy states. Tami 31:55 I don't know what he's talking about. Andre 31:56 Oh, she's fucking funny. She's goofy. I will one day hide a camera somewhere. Tami 31:56 No, I won't be funny anymore everyday. Andre 32:04 No, I said hide. I'll set you up. Tami 32:08 No, because haalf of it is really inappropriate. Andre 32:10 See, there you go. See, you, guys, think it's me? It's not me. It's her. Tami 32:13 I learned it from him though. Andre 32:14 Oh, yeah. Tami 32:15 That is true. Andre 32:15 Yeah. So, Tasha is saying why have I been hiding you from them? I haven't. Tami's been... she's been here all this time. She shows up in different ways. Even if you just see me, Tami is always there because we're always a team. So, anyway, but she's... Tami 32:36 I'm here. Andre 32:37 She's here. Tami 32:37 I'm just usually behind the scenes. Andre 32:39 Yeah, but she'll be more and more in front of the scenes like we're starting, this Saturday, starting the weekly q&a, not q&a. It's not a q&a. It's a coaching experience. It's a weekly coaching experience. So that happens every Saturday at 10am Pacific. So, Tami will jump on those with me whenever she wants, right? But she has so much to fucking offer. And that's why I wanted to do this because you, guys, hear me all the fucking time. I have whatever guests on and we talked about whatever all the time. But to hear the intimate, the reality behind this. It's raw. And it's... we're human beings we're, at the end of the day, doing life just like you, guys, are, maybe we're at different levels in the journey. But we're still in the journey, fighting in the trenches with you, guys. And that's the point of doing this. And for those of you that have not met Tami like this, complete fucking badass, total badass. Tami 33:37 Thank you, baby. Andre 33:38 And Beth is saying you're the best. Tami is the most amazing friend/sister she's ever had. So... Tami 33:45 Oh, thank you, Beth. I love you. Andre 33:47 Beth, total badass. And Beth stepped up in our world in a phenomenal, phenomenal way. So, Tami was saying sometimes you don't know who steps up and who's really there for you until they show up and it's organic, and it's natural, and it's beautiful. It's like, oh, but where's all the other people that say they love you, and they stand for you, and they respect you, andhonor you. You're like, where's all the family? Oh... Anyway... Tami 34:14 Yeah, Beth is amazing. Love you, Beth. I was struggling at moments in this whole pre-menopause hormonal thing. There were days it just flat out sucked and I wanted to cry. And I... Yes. And I did. For days, I cried. And I'm not one to really open up to many people, especially other women. It's something that's always been a little hard for me. And that's a whole nother show. It's a whole nother topic, but I'm just keeping it real that that's reality. We have a handful of people that I even trust and I'm a lot slower to trust in our relationships than Andre, and it's my personality. It's how I was raised, my bag of stuff and my stories, but I trust very few people. And I also feel like I've been burned by people I did trust. And Beth is someone in our life has, time and time again, proven to be genuine and real. And her and I had an amazing connection from day one that when she came into our life, and she's been awesome and a shoulder that I could cry when I needed somebody to just say, I don't feel as strong as I want to right now. And she's like, "Hey, girl, I got you. It's okay. We don't always feel that way." And that's hard for me to do. And I'll just keep it real. For those of you who know us, we're all strong personalities, we lead a strong leadership life, and in the spotlight, even our girls in the spotlight, and sometimes there's pressure in that, and I have never really felt like I could be open and real with very many people of my own pains and struggles. But we all have them. We didn't even get to this point in life of being able to coach other people without our own shit. Are you kidding me? He's shared a lot about his and his moments of panic, and anxiety, and feeling suicidal. That was back when I was a baby with two babies, and only a couple years into being a wife with two babies, and running a business, and scared to death and my husband was going to go away. I mean, we've hit some hard times. And in that, you grow and you go through things that a lot of people don't know. They see us in a different level, they see us from a different success point. They don't know... it's like that iceberg, right? You don't know how fucking deep it goes with all the water. You just don't know what flipped someone where they are. And we're all real. We're all human. We all... we fight, we have our moments, we argue, he realizes I'm right. We get back on track. Right? Andre 36:44 Phenomenal, phenomenal words of wisdom. And yes, I do agree, Tami, for all of you, ladies, I offer what I can obviously from just the human dynamic because the human is still the human, and yes, there's a female male, there's a maternal, that's very relevant. So, what she brings to the table, I can't. And that's it. So, let's move forward quickly. We have about 17 minutes left. So, let's move into... because right now, they announced a recession, we knew it was coming, whether it's a setup, global reset, New World Order shit, but no politics. Whatever it is, it's still here. Real estate's going nuts, crypto, stock market taking a shit. Cool. What do you do? What can people do? What do we do? Tami 37:36 Yeah, I mean, gosh, what do you do? I think that I mentioned this earlier, but one of the things I do love the most about us is our ability to assess things and see when they're not working, or when we need to pivot, and we're very resourceful. Probably because of our upbringing, and him coming from communist Romania, and coming here with nothing, and having to find ways, and create ways, and be very very resourceful. And in a similar way, yes, I was born here a lot more resources available to me, theoretically, but my mom became a single parent very, very young she had been the 10th of 15 kids, grew up on a farm, and she was out in the world trying to figure her stuff out. And there was a lot of times as a single mom she struggled so I didn't have this everything handed to me kind of lifestyle. I had this hunger and ambition for more and I knew if I wanted more I had to go paint it. So. I was hungry from a very young age to so maybe that's what made us who we are but we've always been very driven to find ways. I also didn't come from money. I didn't come from business or being taught business or taught money even so we had to fight for that, and him either. We had to learn that. So, you face today, you face uncertain times, recession, after a shutdown, maybe some lower vibrations, lower energy and emotions, maybe a little depression, maybe you're scared, and there's all kinds of stuff kicking in on top of, "Oh, shit, what do I do for money?" That's where we laser focus. Okay, cool. And many times if we haven't known exactly what to do we whiteboard. We get out a whiteboard, what are the pros and cons, where are we? What do we love to do? What are we good at? What is there to do out there in the world? How can we make money? And now, you start to see the opportunity in everything. You can sell your own clothes, there's many websites you can sell them on, there's many resale shops. You can, right now, get into crypto, you can go learn... YouTube is a free resource. It's so much information. You can learn anything. Our daughter taught herself how to play piano on YouTube. She learned... he offered her 100 bucks to play a really tough Romanian song when she was like 10. She went and learned it and played it beautifully. I mean, when you... where there's a will, there's a way, and you'll find a way to make money in this.yWe see the people on the streets here in California, begging with a sign, and we see people out hustling, selling flowers, selling handy, selling Tamales in the parking lot. There's a difference in energy of "I'm going to go create a way, find a way" to "Oh, poor me everything's fucked." That's really the difference, to look at a situation and Andre's a genius at this, and I often hear him when he's coaching people say, there's a sad situation and it can be anything from something really horrific, and like from rape, to abuse, to divorce, to horrible things, and you're like, "This is fuck, there's nothing good about it," and he'll ask you what is good about it, you're like, "Nothing, did you not hear me? This is horrible." But he'll force you to go through the exercise of what's good about it. We're not leaving this call, we're not leaving this session until we figure out what's good about it. And you'll be amazed how many things you can come up with that are actually good or positive about a situation or that you've learned from it or gain from it that you can move forward because of it. And in this shutdown, in this recession, in this time, right now, of struggle, you have to ask yourself what's good about it? Where's the opportunity? What can I do? What can I do different? How can I reinvent my life? How can I reinvent my business? What can I do today because of all this? And we have done exactly the same thing. We have literally taken this from our family perspective. We make a point to, our girls are older and all over the place, but we still make the point as a family to pull them together. We'll text them, are you here for dinner? What's for dinner? Let's have dinner together, let's connect, let's do this trip together. Let's go to this training. Let's go to see this coach. We're here in Vegas right now for a training. We're always learning and growing and searching for how can we better ourselves? How can we grow and what can we do? And what can we do and teach our girls to do in this world moving forward? So, my message to you would be look outside the box. What's good about this what's good about what's happening? The currency is changing. Cool. What can you invest in that's solid? And again, we're not here to give you financial advice. We're not here to... Andre 42:03 ... that's my wife right there. Tami 42:05 We're not finnancial planners, we're not attorneys. Go consult all your people. But what we're doing works for us is to go outside the box, connect with people, stay plugged in, stay growing, stay plugged into the information out there. There's plenty of people sharing what's working. You're hearing but all that shit that's not working, right? I don't know about all of that. There's plenty of it that's not working, but what is working, what is new, what can I do? And I have a background, as many of you know, starting at 17 years old in network marketing. There are many, many pros and cons to network marketing, but it's something anyone can do. If you find a company, the right timing, the right industry, the right product, the right leadership, right timing, and you join that, very little money down and you just have a hunger and some sweat equity, and you put it in, doesn't matter what your background, doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter right now if you're broke off your ass, you can go make money. You can go find a company right now in network marketing to align yourself with and make money and you can make a lot of money. You can go learn crypto right now and even with a little tiny amount of money in trading account you can make some money there are people doing it. You can go collect cans, recycle Amazon a lot of money but you can make some money you can go pick flowers and grape co pays no Selim, you can breed puppies and go sell those. I mean, there are so many things you can do. If your mindset is focused on what can I do? What can I create? What's good about this? You can help people you can go online live and help people do you know that we met a lady and this blew me away. Just a few months ago we met a lady who had a crochet crochet channel on YouTube. She had grown her following just by getting online and posting a video of her crocheting her YouTube account blew up and she makes over 10,000 Or like 15,000 a month now I think it grew Andre 43:58 from YouTube for fucking sponsors and YouTube every single month just Tami 44:01 by sitting in her living room crocheting I don't know how to crochet it's definitely not for me I don't have the patience but listen, it's something she did she put on a camera on a tripod she video footage she put it on there not even really fabulous edits and started posting her videos grew a following of other ladies sitting around doing nothing during the shutdown wanted to crochet and all of a sudden YouTube started paying her because like he said sponsorships and she makes a monthly income that really is quite phenomenal. From crocheting. I'm just saying what do you know what's your skill? What can you share with the world? That is free social media is free getting on YouTube and creating a channel and posting videos is free. There's anything and everything out there that you can do Andre 44:49 you know it's funny because there's not one social media platform that charges money. Right from Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, LinkedIn, Twitter, Rumble due to, they're all fucking free, but people are like, Oh my God, you know, recession, I can't make money. So that's just social media. Everything she told you guys, there's a lot to do, you can become an affiliate with almost every single big company out there. So Amazon Jake Amazon for him, you can become an affiliate for Amazon as the company. So you become an affiliate, they give you a link called Joe Schmo forward slash whatever your link is from Amazon. And now you can go write blogs about this product and they buy that product through your link, guess who gets paid you. The concept of becoming an affiliate is so fucking powerful, because any any dumb person, but that's not nice. Any human being can do it. What she said, I think that's the magic is getting rid of the box, stepping outside of the box. So if you get rid of the box, and there is no fucking box, that means anything's possible, and you can do anything. Here's the fucking problem where laziness kicks in. Having a drive comes from a place of believing in you, one of my coaching calls yesterday was with a person that just did not believe in themselves to the point to where there's no more that this person can do. And that is a place where if you don't have a little bit of a fight in you to not more to do more, to deserve more. It all comes from how you see you. If you see you as a piece of shit, you're gonna get more shit. Because remember, everything we always talk about this life, this field is nothing but a mirror. And the mirror effect is if you stand in front of a mirror, you're always going to get exactly what this vibrates. At. It's a level of vibration. So if I put on a wig and makeup and I look in the mirror, just what I'm getting back, then whatever the fuck this is, its vibration. So whatever you are, the universe gives you back so you're thinking you're a piece of shit. The Universe says yes, I agree with you because it's a person. It's a perfect reflection of exactly what you are. So if you feel your shit, the universe says yes, you're right, because it doesn't judge doesn't have time to judge. It doesn't speak English. It speaks vibration. So if you can go up into Hey, how can I please go on to oxygen, meaning take a fucking breath. Like how can I deserve more? I know right now, in this moment, I don't feel that like I deserve anything. I'm a piece of shit. I'm fat. I'm ugly. I'm stupid. I don't have any skill sets. Go to the next level of hey, cool. That may be what it is today. But Can I shift into what is possible? What is the opportunity? What can the outcome be? And hey, how can I deserve bigger, better more? How can I and now the universe says oh, how can you? Now there's a question. So the universe will bring you that reflection to give you exactly what the fuck you want. So I think the biggest thing you said is fucking fight. Tami 48:05 I mean, you know what's amazing, you know, even reflecting on it further and hearing you talk, it excites me because even if you have a passion for real estate, we both love real estate. We've been in it our whole lives pretty much and we made a business out of it that was pretty successful for many years. We love real estate and investing real estate and transforming real estate in the markets been up and down. But do you know that if you have a passion for real estate, you can even be common investor with without any of your own money or credit. There are people out there doing it all the time. We have very, very good friends who do it every day and make a ton of money, investing in doing deals in real estate with none of their own money and neither on credit so where there is a will where there's a dry. Our daughter, she's 19 You guys probably hear her singing on YouTube and Facebook and Instagram. The shutdown happened, guess what she did. She started going to the beach with her guitar and singing. And she put out a little tip jar and she made more money in cash in going a few days a week to the beach. Then she was making in a job that she held down happened to be at several days a week for hours on end being told what to do and she was being free wearing what she wanted. She would show up to the beach barefoot, that's our little hippie with her guitar and a little tip jar and her Instagram handle if they wanted to go follow her and sing and sing for half an hour to 45 minutes an hour, sometimes two hours until she was done and go home and would come home with cash. Because people loved hearing her sing and she's good and amazing. But that's what she did. She she became resourceful in a shutdown where things were different and she didn't want to go do the job thing. wear a mask and be reading her own crap and all day so she wanted to be outside and be free. And so while other people her age were conforming and wearing the mask and showing up to their office or their serving job or whatever and being visible Going to school and showing up with the mask. She was out the beach free as a bird singing and in fresh air. So anything that you want is possible. That's really what it comes down to. But you've got to want it. You've got to drive. Andre 50:16 You have to believe two things I want to say Bella is on here. She says she had a dream about breeding puppies last night. I just want to say no, that was not a dream. That's a nightmare. Tami 50:27 Our Bella loves animals puppies kidding us? Andre 50:31 On the Record, we'll just say no. Number two, the concept of belief if you guys have not, and I you know, I talk about this all the time, if you have not watched the first matrix, that I believe the first and the fourth matrix are probably the most informational of the four series. It's about belief, what you believe is what you get. So everything we talk about in all of our trainings, its thoughts, words, beliefs, and the thoughts and the words are based on your beliefs. What you believe is what you get in this life today. The words are only there because the thoughts that are produced and the images that this little ego thing produces the conscious mind that all of this that's happening out here is based on your belief, which is called your blueprint. So life goes in the direction of your blueprint, when you build a house, what do you do? You start with a fucking blueprint do you design, hey, the wall goes here, the foundation, the second story, the window, the door. So everything we have done in our lives up until this point, created a blueprint, she has a blueprint, a blueprint, and we have two blueprints now looking to coexist, and the girls now have their blueprints, and they're looking to coexist with us and with friends and boyfriends, etc. And saying for you to get something different out of life. Because if you notice the same shit, the patterns repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, because there's a subconscious mind. But there's a more powerful motherfucker called the unconscious mind. And the unconscious mind produces for us what's called unconscious behaviors, all the patterns that you get on a repeat fucking hamster wheel every day, every day. It's called the rat race. That's called unconscious behavior. So if you want to change the unconscious behaviors, and from negative patterns to self empowering patterns, because she The second thing she brought up, when I said, Hey, three things that you got from this thing, she said, self empowerment. If you want to love yourself again, you got to change the belief system around how the fuck you love you. And then make that into an unconscious behavior to where you love you automatically every day. And happiness is unconscious behavior. Fucking it's over GAME OVER checkmate. Tami 52:46 Yeah, if you you know, that was a huge realization for me is that we talk about it all the time we train on it. And funny enough, you can actually get, even as a trainer, even as a coach, you can get complacent in your own growth at moments because it's all peaks and valleys. Right? We grow more and valleys and in times of pressure ourselves. And if you don't like the way your life is going, if you don't like your blueprint, the way you're seeing things and things in your life are disappointing, you most likely you have expectations, we have a blueprint set up to say these things have to be a certain way or I'm not happy. It My husband has to act a certain way or respond to me a certain way, or I'm not happy. And I'm not happy because that's not my blueprint, my blueprint says he needs to do ABC. My Blueprint says my income needs to be ABC, my kids need to act like this. And guess what? It's not always going to work like that. We set our Blueprints very, very early on. If you don't like it, you need to change it. You need to rewrite rework your blueprint into a more realistic because as you learn as you grow, right, as you evolve in this life, and level up, you're going to need to adjust that blueprint. That blueprint cannot stay the way it was in half your life all of a sudden fall into alignment. No, you have to revisit that that blueprint and go oh shit, this isn't working. Like you can't build a house with old plans on a new lot without making some adjustments right to that foundation to that new lot. The new plumbing has to go here. This has to go here. It's not. It's not like you can just take that same blueprint on any any space of land. It's got to be reworked. And I feel like our life is the same. You've got to be willing to pivot you've got to be willing to adjust and grow and self reflect and self develop daily to adjust that blueprint to proper expectations so that your happiness is always in alignment with your truth with your environment, with realistic expectations for your life and for your people in your life. Your husband, your spouse, your significant other partner, children, right? That you have to Just that blueprint to realistic expectations of those people, and ultimately, your blueprint needs to come back to, I'm responsible for how I feel, I'm responsible for my happiness, if I'm not, if I'm not happy, my blueprint says they need to do ABC, but I was wrong. My Blueprint has to be rewritten to know I'm not happy. It's because I'm not happy. And I'm not looking at them the right way. Because I'm expecting something of them that I shouldn't. And I have to come back to me and say, What am I doing? What am I expecting? What am I wanting that I'm not getting? What am I doing? That's keeping me here when I want to be here. It's always You 100% never anybody else. And I know Andre teaches that I know a lot of you work with him personally. And it's true. It's true 100% across the board as pissed off as I might get at him at moments, which is where he's, but it's still how I'm looking at the situation and still be in I can adjust what I'm expecting of him because he's not changing in those moments. He's right. I'm wanting something different from him that I either need to communicate in a different way. So he can hear me or adjust what it is that I'm looking for. And it's that simple. Every single relationship with patients and the ones that can't Andre 56:18 eat go to am I dropping my baby? That was deep to see me. Okay. So we literally we just drove in from home and I got up to our room and settled a few things set this up and now we get to go get some food Tami 56:36 and promise me a nice meal. Yeah, my show and I'll feed you so there we go. Andre 56:41 I think this just became our show. How is she fucking amazing? I think she needs to co host or just throw throw her that baton. And that's why it's called who's a badass because it's I got rid of the who's a badass with Andre Popa. It's just who's a badass show. So technically, anybody can host it. Bingo Bango. I didn't set this up by by. It was just like mere coincidence anyway. So love you guys. Thank you for hanging out with us. If you're not following that ESRI factory page yet, please do so. Tammy Popa, you can find her at Tammy Popa, I'm at Andre Popa at BET Asri. Factory, you can find us on Instagram and Tiktok and Facebook everywhere, et cetera, YouTube NS refactoring channel, all of this gets repurposed to all of these channels, that as refectory.com is the website, you can drop into our email system there or you can text the word badass big HSS 2554442 things coming up that are for some of you. We're the Saturday on August 13, we're launching a weekly, every single Saturday 10am Pacific a group coaching experience, we dropped the price to before COVID prices were there $98 per person, stupid, fucking cheap, but it's our way of helping. So for those of you that need help, don't know what to do. This is very, very much for you a lot of value that prices stupidly don't like what we're cheap, but the value is far greater than the cost itself. Definitely your passion project. Yeah, yeah, very much passion project. It's typically 18. And over if you have anyone that's 14 plus the child, etc. As long as they are on with a legal guardian, we're okay with that. So just keep that in mind. 14 Plus with the legal guardian on with them on the zoom at all times. And of course, the big event, the bootcamp october 23 24th 25th. Anybody looking to like, grow quickly, this event is for you. It's a three day event in San Diego on the beach. Insanely stupid, you can get that information at badass reef factory.com Just click on Events. Love you guys. Thank you for hanging out any last words, Honey, Tami 59:03 I've met some of you and I look forward to meeting any of you that I haven't been to. This is really a badass community, badass tribe of people. And I'm very, very grateful for each of you. Thank you for listening to us today. And anyone that sees this as recording wherever it goes in the land of recordings and social media platforms. Just thank you for supporting us and let us know however we can help and serve you and your bad acids. We love you. We love what we do and want to help each and every one of you thrive during this time of really great opportunity. I want to say uncertainty has never been more opportunities than right now. So really, I hope truly, you see it that way and that you get excited about life right now because we're fired up on so many levels and I look forward to meeting each and every one of you and helping you in this transformational amazing period of awakening. Andre 59:54 Love you guys have a phenomenal week. We'll see you next Tuesday. On that. Who's a badass show? Hi guys, peace out. Thank you all for tuning in. Thank you for listening. And remember the goal here is for you to gain information that can change your life that can set you up for a better tomorrow on your way to becoming a badass and remember a badass is simply somebody that is free and happy. If you're not happy and free, on the inside, we're empty. You know what to do. Click all the love buttons subscribe button, leave a comment, leave a beautiful review because of course you're in love with this information. And of course it is changing your life. Share this with someone please get this information out there. 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